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Wednesday, June 10, 2026
New York State's Progress on Releasing Historical Records
Wednesday, July 30, 2025
1880 Census and More
In 1880, the decennial federal census was recorded. This was the first census that provided the relation of every member of the household to the head.
Did you know that additional information was recorded on people who had special needs and/or lived in institutions because of these needs? The database at Ancestry is titled U.S., 1880 Federal Census Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes. Let's use the term "supplement to the census."
I just discovered this and thought I'd share my findings.
Please note that the terms used for these people and institutions were standard for the year 1880. Most have fallen out of use today and seem archaic or degrading.
Searching the 1880 census will not give results in the supplement to the census. These are separate databases at Ancestry. A potential match might appear in the "Suggested Records" column if you click on an entry in one database.
How would you know to look for someone on the supplement to the census? Either because they are enumerated as an occupant of an institution or because they answered in the affirmative to the questions about health.
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| 1880 federal census questions about health |
Question 15: Is the person [on the day of the Enumerator's visit] sick or temporarily disabled, so as to be unable to attend to ordinary business or duties? If so, what is the sickness or disability?
Question 16: Blind,
Question 17: Deaf and Dumb,
Question 18: Idiotic,
Question 19: Insane,
Question 20: Maimed, Crippled, Bedridden, or otherwise disabled.
Words or a slash mark in these columns merit a visit to the supplement to the census. Additional information was collected about the nature and length of the condition. This may or may not be accurate.
Information, including spelling and indexing, can vary from the census to the supplement. The correct person can be confirmed because the enumeration district, page number, and line number of the census are included in the supplement.
Mary Staats (1840-1892) has possibly four entries in the 1880 census and supplement.
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| 1880 United States Federal Census 476 Mulberry Street, Newark, New Jersey |
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| 1880 Federal Census Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes. Enumeration District 65. |
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| 1880 Federal Census Essex County Asylum for the Insane, Camden Street, Newark, New Jersey. Enumeration District 68. |
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| 1880 Federal Census Schedules of Defective, Dependent, and Delinquent Classes. Essex County Asylum for the Insane, Camden Street, Newark, New Jersey. Enumeration District 68. |
Tuesday, November 28, 2023
Married twice in 1929
In my research, finding two marriage ceremonies for the same couple is no longer unusual. I think this is thanks to indexes becoming more readily available online for New York and New Jersey.
In some instances, the reasons may not be apparent on the face of the documents and the length of time between ceremonies.
For Theodore Marmorstein and Rose Roth, the purpose of their double nuptials was clear- they were married in a civil ceremony and then a religious ceremony in May of 1929 in New York City.
The civil ceremony was at the municipal building on May 4th.
The religious ceremony was performed by Rabbi B M Klein on May 9th.
These images are available for free online through the New York City Municipal Archives.
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| 1929 marriage record of Theodore Marmorstein and Rose Roth Civil ceremony May 4 |
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| 1929 marriage record of Theodore Marmorstein and Rose Roth Religious ceremony May 9 |
The record for the second ceremony explains at the top of the page, "Married civilly at Municipal Building NYC 4th of May. Number of marriage certificate 165972."
Questions:
1- What does certificate number 165972 reference? The number on the first ceremony is 11233.
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| Married civilly at Municipal Building NYC 4th of May. Number of marriage certificate 165972. |
2- What does the stamp and handwriting on the reverse of the first certificate indicate?
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| Order No 368739 Date 10-10-42 Number Issued 2 Searcher Photo OP M R |
Observation:
Marriage records are great because the subject of the record, the bride or the groom, oversees the information written on the document.
The spelling of Rose Roth's mother differs slightly on both documents. Rose Roth's birth certificate is available on the Municipal Archives website. Rose was born on June 1, 1907 in New York City. Her mother's name was recorded as Annie Buchholz on this birth certificate. This is consistent with other records for Annie. I don't know why Rose listed her mother as Helen on both marriage certificates.
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| Birth certificate of Rose Roth, June 1, 1907 in New York City. Father- William Roth (1869-1936). Mother- Annie Buchholz. [Accessed online New York City Municipal Archives] |
What became of this couple?
In the 1930 census, Theodore and Rose were living together on East 66th Street in New York City. I found two children born to them in 1930 and 1937.
By 1940, Rose was residing at the Hudson Valley State Hospital in Dover, Dutchess County, New York. This was an inpatient facility for the treatment of mental health issues. In the 1950 census, Rose was still a patient at this facility.
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| 1940 United States Federal Census Dover, Dutchess County, New York Hudson Valley State Hospital Rose Marmorstein, patient; age 32; married; born in New York. |
There is an entry in the New York State Death Index for Rose Marmorstein in 1964. The residence was New York City. Remember that New York City's records are not housed with the rest of the state. An entry for Rose in the state's index could indicate that she was still a patient at Harlem State. The address in New York City was likely a relative's home.
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| New York State index of deaths Rose Marmorstein died March 3, 1964 |
Theodore Marmorstein remarried in 1954 to Hedwig "Hedy" Erger. He and Rose must have divorced. This marriage record is not yet available on the website of the Municipal Archives.
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| New York City index of marriages Theodore Marmorstein and Hedwig Erger License issued 1954 |
Theodore died in Hawaii in 1992. Hedy died in 2002.
















