Showing posts with label naturalization. Show all posts
Showing posts with label naturalization. Show all posts

Monday, February 10, 2025

Missing the Boat

Ship records of passengers can be informative, possibly revealing places of origin, occupations, and relations in the originating country as well as the destination country.

You can view indexes on the websites of the National Archives, Family Search (current catalog of passenger lists here), and Ancestry.

The most recent immigrant ancestor in my family tree is Herman Lutter (1860-1924). I have not (yet) found him on any passenger list. From his entries on the federal census of 1900 and 1920 in Newark, New Jersey, he gave his year of immigration as 1881. In 1910, it looks like his year of birth, 1860, was written instead of his year of immigration. His brother, Otto Luther (1845-1909), arrived in 1884.

On November 1, 1892 Herman Lutter swore his Declaration of Intent in Newark. Frank Geisler (1848-1937) swore to Herman's "good moral character." At that point in time, Herman was living apart from his wife, Clara Uhl (1865-1955), and their son, Howard Lutter (1889-1959).

Herman Lutter. Declaration of Intent.
Essex County, New Jersey. Naturalizations November 1, 1892.
Film 1317423.


1900 United States Federal Census. Newark, Essex County, New Jersey.
Herman Leuter, boarder of Frank Geisler. Born May 1860 in Germany. Immigrated in 1881. Naturalized.


1910 United States Federal Census. Newark, Essex County, New Jersey.
Herman Lutter, lodger of Frank Geisler. Age 50. Immigrated in 1860. Naturalized.
The year of immigration is probably wrong; he was born in 1860.
Joseph Hoffman Jr, age 9, was probably Joseph Edwin Hoffmire (1909-2007), a grandson of Frank Geisler.

1920 United States Federal Census. Newark, Essex County, New Jersey.
Herman Lutter. Immigrated 1881; naturalized in 1886.


1900 United States Federal Census. Harrison, Hudson County, New Jersey.
Otto Lutter, born January 1845 in Germany. Immigrated in 1884. Alien.


In 1881, the nearest port of entry to Newark, New Jersey was Castle Garden in Manhattan, New York. (Now a national monument called Castle Clinton.) Yet Herman and Otto do not seem to appear on any lists or indexes, including Germans to America.

Close proximity of Castle Garden in Manhattan to Newark, New Jersey

The port of entry may not be where the person settled. They could have arrived in Boston, Baltimore, Philadelphia, or New Orleans. Even Canada!

In 1875, a family of Lutters arrived in New York, among them Hermann Lutter, age 15. This matches the year of birth of my Herman- 1860. We can look at their records to see that this is not my Herman.

First I found the passenger list for Steamer SS Silesia, which arrived in the Port of New York on March 19, 1875 from Hamburg and Havre- ports in Germany and France. Hamburg is over 200 miles north of Herman's hometown of Scheibe, now called Neuhaus am Rennweg, in Thuringia, Germany.

Map of modern-day Europe showing the 200 mile distance
between the port of Hamburg, Germany and Scheibe (now Neuhaus am Rennweg),
hometown of my Lutters

On this list, "Herm" Lutter was 15 years old and the brother of Aug Lutter, age 30. Among the people with them was Ottilia, their sister, though this name was scribbled. Herman and Otto had a sister named Ottilia. She ended up staying in Germany.

Passenger list of SS Silesia. Arrived in New York March 19, 1875.
The Lutter family is crossed out; they took an earlier ship.

The strikethrough lines signal that these people did not make the trip. This made sense since my Herman arrived in 1881, not 1875, but this is not him.


Passenger list of SS Herder. Arrived in New York March 11, 1875.


More digging revealed the reason for the crossed out names. The family took an earlier ship, SS Herder. On March 11, 1875, Hermann Lutter, age 16, arrived in New York with his family. The names varied a little from the other entry.

Next I looked for the companion record of this arrival. The departures were recorded in Hamburg. The Luther family was on a separate paper from the ledger book. Their place of origin was among the recorded information; however, I cannot read it. The transcription in the index is Salohow, Preußen. No such place. If accurate, this is not my Herman Lutter because he was from Scheibe.

The originating record of the Lutters' sail to the United States


In a future article, I will explore other Lutters from Newark who appeared on a passenger list bound for New York in 1867.


Sunday, December 3, 2023

Towns of Origin in Hungary

Was Rose Roth (1907-1964), wife of Theodore Marmorstein, related to Theodore's mother, Emilia Roth?

Marriage certificate, New York City, May 4, 1929.
Theodore Marmorstein, son of Emilia Roth and Bernard Marmorstein,
married Rose Rother, daughter Helen (Annie) Bercholtz and William Roth.

Someone raised the question upon reading the article about the two marriage ceremonies of Theodore and Rose.

The answer is I do not know, but I don't think so.

Roth is not an unusual name. Just because people share a surname does not mean that they are related.

The Roths were from the country of Hungary. Identifying a hometown will tell us if a relation was geographically possible.

Emilia (mother of Theodore Marmorstein) filed a Petition for Naturalization in 1935. Her information included her birthplace of Abony, Hungary on July 16, 1877.

Petition for Naturalization
Emilie Marmorstein 1935
Collection at Ancestry

William Roth (father of the bride Rose) filed an application for a passport in 1922. His information included his birthplace of Gönc, Hungary on April 18, 1869.

Application for Passport
William Roth 1922
Collection at Ancestry


I visited Jewish Gen to locate these towns. Their Communities Database is vital for locating present-day towns or areas that may have undergone name changes over the generations.

Abony, Hungary
Communities Database of Jewish Gen

Gönc, Hungary
Communities Database of Jewish Gen

I mapped out these two towns. Using modern roads, these two towns are over 200 kilometers apart and about three hours away.

Distance between Abony and Gönc in Hungary
Google Maps

I think it is unlikely that these two Roth lines are related on their most recent lines.